tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post1554553525791178833..comments2024-03-22T11:03:29.536+00:00Comments on Mr Saturday's Mumblings: Warhammer - The Last PostMr Saturdayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-538235035078286362017-06-28T12:10:41.446+01:002017-06-28T12:10:41.446+01:00Hi Andrew. It's interesting looking back over ...Hi Andrew. It's interesting looking back over this post now. I feel much the same way now as I did then, though AoS has grown rather prodigiously since then. It seems the community has uncoiled somewhat since the trauma that was the death of Warhammer Fantasy. For myself, expansions like Age of Sigmar Skirmish and The General's Companion give me a lot of fodder for the kind of games I like to play. It's very open ended, so I can tailor it to what I like for little effort. I will be building round base warbands for skirmish and Paths to Glory, but I won't be re-basing my fimir. I intend to add to them, in fact.<br /><br />There does seem to be a real effort coming from Games Workshop to accommodate players. This new Games Workshop appears to be listening to the player base and giving us what we want. Hell, Genestealer Cults? Long may it last. <br /><br />However, the world of Warhammer or 'the world that was' is still far superior to the mortal realms in my mind. Granted it had decades of lore poured into it, so a comparison might not be entirely fair. The high fantasy setting, while much fun, doesn't hit my sweet spot the way the Old World does. I know it too well. There's no reason one can't take the new rules and use the Old World as the setting of course. By contrast that does make the super open-ended and largely unexplored mortal realms a fun environment to play in.<br /><br />Thanks for the kind words about the blog, by the way!Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-52491276186178247682017-06-27T22:30:27.830+01:002017-06-27T22:30:27.830+01:00I have waited nearly 2 years to comment as I wante...I have waited nearly 2 years to comment as I wanted to give it a fair go.<br />I have done so. I will keep my old Armies I do not need anymore GW figures anymore. I refuse to play another game of Age of Sigmar. The lore was destroyed and they need not have done it in the way they did to protect their IP. I have seen IP Boilerplate protection actions and this was one of the most poorly executed I have ever seen.<br /><br />Farewell Games Workshop. I am not saying farewell to Warhammer as I have every edition ever published including the original boxed set of rules. I own most of the fantasy novels and every White Dwarf issue since Issue 73 until the ridiculous publishing scheme came out 2 years ago.<br /><br />David I love your Blog. Thank you for the service you provide.<br /><br />P.S. I am still playing and buying 40K Miniatures and have renewed my WD subscriptions since they have come to their senses.Andrew Frankehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04847344542341681154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-23825314187098901152015-08-20T10:13:31.893+01:002015-08-20T10:13:31.893+01:008 books eh? That should keep me busy. Having read ...8 books eh? That should keep me busy. Having read none of the Gotrek and Felix books, I am keen to start at the beginning with those. As with yourself, I have a backlog of Warhammer Fantasy reading that was now become a finite resource, so I'll get to it in time.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-18096121887129446582015-08-20T01:15:54.739+01:002015-08-20T01:15:54.739+01:00There are 8x End Times novels if you count the Mal...There are 8x End Times novels if you count the Malus Darkblade volume (3.5) and final two books for Gotrek & Felix scripted for the setting. The first of those two Slayer novels was particularly engaging. I have mixed feelings about the whole storyline due to the reasons I've discussed elsewhere but it does make for some grandiose story telling. There are also 6 short stories downloadable from Black Library. You will particularly relish the Bone Cage short and the first of the five volumes David. I know I did... Now that production of new fantasy fiction has ceased to be I should be able to clear what used to be my continual backlog of reading material. :-|Werekinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506785337759143947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-86001883210603845632015-08-19T12:47:36.617+01:002015-08-19T12:47:36.617+01:00Ooo. I have the 5 End Times novels, that's ver...Ooo. I have the 5 End Times novels, that's very intriguing, I'm looking forward to seeing what that entails.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-2232711211922283432015-08-19T12:43:04.061+01:002015-08-19T12:43:04.061+01:00For anyone who has read End Times volume 5, the Jo...For anyone who has read End Times volume 5, the Joshua Reynolds editon in novel form... We, the survivors of this corporate apocalypse, remain frozen in time (and space) in a Time of Legends.Werekinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506785337759143947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-5945585097292082232015-07-30T10:21:15.823+01:002015-07-30T10:21:15.823+01:00Hi Adrian,
That's excellent, thanks for the l...Hi Adrian,<br /><br />That's excellent, thanks for the link, I'll certainly take a look at that.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-52294453031124145472015-07-27T20:24:03.999+01:002015-07-27T20:24:03.999+01:00I have completed a bolt on fantasy rule set to Hai...I have completed a bolt on fantasy rule set to Hail Caesar called Shadow Storm. I have run it passed Rick Priestly and the guys at Warlord games and they like it. Rick as given it a go and give me his blessing to place it on my fledgling blog here http://adyswargamesden.com/<br />if you fancy giving it a go <br /><br />ady adymc2650@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462864282283443066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-91932017764554380182015-07-22T16:42:07.296+01:002015-07-22T16:42:07.296+01:0030 years here.. lovely post.. 30 years here.. lovely post.. Neil101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01755198543735153564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-46482775783638490492015-07-20T10:42:59.120+01:002015-07-20T10:42:59.120+01:00We'll take ship to Valinor together then. I he...We'll take ship to Valinor together then. I hear the boat has an excellent wargames room.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-6551704287811669652015-07-20T10:40:36.007+01:002015-07-20T10:40:36.007+01:00I am an RT nut myself, so that's some consolat...I am an RT nut myself, so that's some consolation. I used to joke that GW wanted to put space marines in fantasy. The joke is on me now. I don't hate the stormcast guys, the liberators are actually pretty nice, but I do hate the policy that created them. GW will need to be careful about becoming Space Marine Workshop. All eggs in one basket and that.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-74068760927599340262015-07-20T10:37:37.930+01:002015-07-20T10:37:37.930+01:00They mothballed so many great games. Necromunda re...They mothballed so many great games. Necromunda remains a firm favourite of mine. Scavvies FTW.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-66480480399485653152015-07-20T10:36:22.321+01:002015-07-20T10:36:22.321+01:00Hail Caeser is rapidly approaching the top of my l...Hail Caeser is rapidly approaching the top of my list for the next battle game system to get into, it has a great group of folks behind it.<br /><br /> Fimir INDEED.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-65462581189797050812015-07-20T10:34:26.351+01:002015-07-20T10:34:26.351+01:00True enough Bruce, true enough. I'm drawing wh...True enough Bruce, true enough. I'm drawing what crumbs I can from the situation. It could have been like the specialist games, where support simply ceased, but they knew the backlash would have been formidable if they tried that with Warhammer Fantasy, well, at least more formidable than what we've already seen.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-44267534936923014712015-07-20T10:31:45.764+01:002015-07-20T10:31:45.764+01:00I fear you're probably right. Let's hope t...I fear you're probably right. Let's hope they haven't completely misjudged it.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-71386562860141861302015-07-19T09:22:29.472+01:002015-07-19T09:22:29.472+01:00I am a RT / 40k sci if junkie at heart so the loss...I am a RT / 40k sci if junkie at heart so the loss of fantasy has had less of an impact on me. That being said it did make me quite rageful, as a kid I always liked to read the fantasy bits and battle reports in WD and I did love the setting, I can't believe GW have destroyed that in one fell swoop...and replaced it with Space Marines in fantasy!!! AggghhhhhLegioCustodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13833383911728446032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-64389043798395695392015-07-18T14:55:01.568+01:002015-07-18T14:55:01.568+01:00Perhaps you should look at different rulesets. The...Perhaps you should look at different rulesets. The Shattered Crown or KoW. Its very sad I felt the same when they turned everything into Specialist games especially Necromunda. Simon Quinton https://www.blogger.com/profile/18001946192905517180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-77977703245858042112015-07-18T10:40:19.534+01:002015-07-18T10:40:19.534+01:00I've had a look through the KoW system and I&#...I've had a look through the KoW system and I'm not too impressed really. Haven't tried it though so i could be surprised. I see they changed their website already to it being THE fantasy battle system. LOL. Hoping to try Hail Caesar fantasy out though. Most army lists already built and rules are out there for building your own (Fimir maybe?)Furstenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509105158755157422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-9833303572049405102015-07-18T01:19:01.077+01:002015-07-18T01:19:01.077+01:00Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings on t...Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings on the matter! I'm right there with you...Randroidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07503450031323443990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-11255444901590441772015-07-18T00:08:04.266+01:002015-07-18T00:08:04.266+01:00Hail Caesar fantasy looks like it could be fun. pl...Hail Caesar fantasy looks like it could be fun. played Black powder and thats similar. Me and Just john have a SAGA army each but not put together yet. When you think SAGA is 25euro for 40 models there is no comparisonFurstenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509105158755157422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-51467243486304657762015-07-18T00:06:04.956+01:002015-07-18T00:06:04.956+01:00' They could have just canned Warhammer Fantas...' They could have just canned Warhammer Fantasy entirely' they did Dave, they did. not just the game but years and years of lovely back story and fluff... There are far more interesting games out there than AoS these days. Dropzone commander is getting good reviews. I'll stick to the odd game of whatever edition of WHFB people want to play (somewhere between 3rd and 8th) but I'll spend my money on non-GW products from now onFurstenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509105158755157422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-10693600047205391402015-07-17T23:36:31.915+01:002015-07-17T23:36:31.915+01:00Vandalism implies a degree of thoughtlessness, and...Vandalism implies a degree of thoughtlessness, and GW are nothing if not calculating, albeit in a very cynical, cold manner. This is more like a burnt earth policy, allowing them to create a more easily controlled and defendable IP. This is the Edition change they've always wanted, writ large. I've never been much of a war gamer, WHFRP has always been closer to my heart, as well as D&D; and this stinks of the same misstep that Hasbro/WotC took when they brought out Fourth Edition D&D. That said, I feel the schism that happened there won't happen here- Old Grognards will just sadly turn their backs on GW and game on, leaving Age of Sigmar mostly to the newbies.LENhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756419394721390213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-33032454493498605722015-07-17T08:07:49.514+01:002015-07-17T08:07:49.514+01:00I think looking on it as an entirely new setting i...I think looking on it as an entirely new setting is the only way to give it a fair go. I hear you on the pathetic aesthetic. The more mythological style of Age of Sigmar separates it that much further, which in the end is probably a good thing so it can become it's own beast. I'm curious how the other factions will look when put through the high fantasy filter.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-12306320492992891272015-07-17T03:46:29.998+01:002015-07-17T03:46:29.998+01:00Great read. Like yourself I have been into GW and ...Great read. Like yourself I have been into GW and Warhammer for many years - started with the Konrad books 24 years ago.<br /><br />I am treating Age of Sigmar as a new game as this makes it a lot less of a wrench, and I feel it deserves at least a fair shake of the stick. Additionally I like Warhammer for the pathetic aesthetic, but I am also a fan of the more high fantasy style which it is looking like AoS will deliver on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-2967775711899401892015-07-16T20:19:27.421+01:002015-07-16T20:19:27.421+01:00Thanks Davey. It's optimism mixed with a desir...Thanks Davey. It's optimism mixed with a desire to see the setting continue in some fashion I suppose. Speaking of WFRP, I have a marathon session coming up in a month or so with some old stalwarts. That'll be fun.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.com