tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post4144209348800108251..comments2024-03-22T11:03:29.536+00:00Comments on Mr Saturday's Mumblings: Building Armies - How Long, and How Many?Mr Saturdayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-1557245640951935872012-06-06T17:02:22.821+01:002012-06-06T17:02:22.821+01:00Crikey Hoodling, that was quite uplifting, thanks ...Crikey Hoodling, that was quite uplifting, thanks very much indeed. Posting online actually helps a lot, as I'm keen to keep posting updates and I get a lot of good feedback which helps keep me going.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-78370003518209199802012-06-06T00:35:05.555+01:002012-06-06T00:35:05.555+01:00Your Fimir were never going to be quick, given how...Your Fimir were never going to be quick, given how ambitious the project is. But then, when it's your pet project with updates going online for everyone to see, it's very hard to cut corners or do anything to a level that you find less than satisfactory (and you'll be especially picky). <br /><br />To a certain extent you just need to accept that, and just keep trying to make steady progress. It's funny how you can feel like you're not getting anywhere for ages, then you reach a critical threshold and you find things come together very quickly.<br /><br />Having deadlines will help you, provided they're not so ambitious that you're doomed to failure. And frankly, I think if you can get your army to a finished 2500pt level by sometime next year, it will be reasonable progress from where you are now.<br /><br />And try not to focus on the efforts of those freaks out there who pump out astounding stuff in unbelievable time - thinking too hard about that can be depressing. You don't need to produce things at that rate, so long as you're happy with your own efforts.<br /><br />Looking forward to seeing that first tournament force, ready to go!Hoodlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08507134198601519253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-46098416661239931652012-06-05T16:37:06.086+01:002012-06-05T16:37:06.086+01:00Thanks for the tips folks, especially considering ...Thanks for the tips folks, especially considering you both produce great minis. I find I can't leave a mini until I'm happy it's finished. That said, I have taken on some techniques to speed things up. Putting particular effort into the faces, shields and bases for example. Batch painting, pre-mixing paints, washes, glazes and even the dip. I was VERY sceptical of the dip when I first saw it, but when treated as a wash, over a certain range of colours with further highlighting laid on top, it can be astoundingly effective with a good matt coat to take off the shine. <br /><br />I also find giving a mini a sexy base improves the whole model immensely, as it gives the eye something to soak up, and I love basing anyway.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-47324065773205089832012-06-05T16:20:59.939+01:002012-06-05T16:20:59.939+01:00I hate saying this, but practice makes perfect? I ...I hate saying this, but practice makes perfect? I think 10 in 10 hrs is doable, but if your heading for somewhere just above Table top. So enough details to look good as a whole, but maybe could use a bit more to push it over the top. <br /><br />I usually aim for 30 mins per model to get to tabletop standards, and then once a majority are finished, go back over them as required. But the highlight is I get more models on the table faster to be able to play with, and know that I can fix them up if required at a later date. <br /><br />Your Fimirs are definitely WOW factor. So TT or even TT+ is not enough for such a project is understandable, but maybe the tricks above might help speed things along a bit though.MrLeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11564055436566237661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-79386778428415935402012-06-05T16:18:32.671+01:002012-06-05T16:18:32.671+01:00Inks are my friend - watered down a little and mix...Inks are my friend - watered down a little and mixed in with a bit of Vallejo matte medium to take the sheen off. That way I can quickly highlight the base coat without worrying to much about precision blending and what-not as the final ink washes ties it all together and provides the shading. <br /><br />Mind you the LPL forced me to go back and add a few more levels of highlights so that my minis wouldn't be totally outclassed - still somehow managed to churn out a team of at least 5 minis a week - not sure how!? <br /><br />As for temptations - I have several other projects boxed tightly away out of sight and almost mind! Mustn't think about my old Hogboblin warband, Goblin horde, Baron Kraust's motley army of Undead and Chaotics, the three Bloodbowl teams I've assembled and the Orc, Dwarf and Dark Elf Man O War fleets awaiting the paintbrush!<br /><br />Saying that I still need to dig out my notes and rephotograph the final battle for my Orc's Drift project...Thantsantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902730729032525538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-2856238558851891442012-06-05T14:52:00.627+01:002012-06-05T14:52:00.627+01:0010 figures in ten hours, good lord. I think I'...10 figures in ten hours, good lord. I think I'll give that a go, but I doubt I'll manage it. I'll give myself a week. I find it hard to believe you work that fast considering your standard of work.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-56672788804895457292012-06-05T14:45:05.005+01:002012-06-05T14:45:05.005+01:00Don't spend hours painting one or two regiment...Don't spend hours painting one or two regiment figures, you will get nowhere fast! You need to develop a technique that allows you to paint a figure in an hour. Not literally of course, 10 figures in 10 hours is your goal. If you can get that done in a week, than another 10 the week after, then have a week off (or build regiments or work on a character). At the end of a month you have a regiment and maybe a character painted up. Repeat that for three months if you can. That's the kind of system I try to stick to. It works.Nordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16939206270751544079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-62053569470158819752012-06-05T14:08:26.469+01:002012-06-05T14:08:26.469+01:00I was very much like that too, and I still like my...I was very much like that too, and I still like my minis, even rank and file, painted to a certain standard, but I can't paint every mini in an army like a character, and that I guess was the first step to maybe getting stuff painted at a faster rate.Mr Saturdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092917415087033316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8999006694513130928.post-51122654567606239922012-06-05T13:41:39.631+01:002012-06-05T13:41:39.631+01:00I'm on the same boat. My Vampire Counts army w...I'm on the same boat. My Vampire Counts army was started back in the 1990, as Undead of course and morphed into current form. I did have a break of about 5-6 years of no painting and gaming at all and very slow 2 earlier years but still... VC are far from being done. There is a lot of ghouls and zombies to add, another units of horsemen, some monsters and new stuff from latest army book.<br />And... I have a lot of unpainted miniatures for Empire, Warriors of Chaos, Chaos Deamons, Bretonnia and Lizardmen. And I would love to paint at least Empire and something else in foreseeable future. <br />Add to this that I'm painting and playing historical wargames too and I can safely say that my pile of unpainted figures will grow and grow and grow...<br />But I know why it is like that. I'm slow painter. I can't paint to very high standard and still it takes me a lot of time to paint even one miniature. I just want them too look good, so every surface has blending, shadows, hightlights, etc...Inkubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09544298079350058692noreply@blogger.com